http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312

Unbelievable :rolleyes:

Haha,

Sorry, I will not be accepting bidders with 0 feedback. If you have 0 feedback and are serious, please contact me via the contact seller link at the top of this auction so that I may verify your intentions.


He has zero feedback himself.

From the start of this it seemed as though the kid did it for money and now it's even more evident. Can he legally do that though (I mean sell the document)?

ROFL haha highest bid is 1400$
someone wants it.


Mike Rowesoft rofl thats a good one smart guy.

He'll get more on ebay from his letter than the $10,000 he requested from M$. LOL.

That's absurd. Any respect I had for that kid is now completely gone.

Chris

I was pondering upon the legal matters that may be involved, but then I realized, as long as he didn't sign any NDA's, I'm sure he is at liberty to disclose this document.

Oh, I have no doubt about that. I'm sure he can do it legally. I doubt there even was a NDA. After all, the whole debochle (as well as the outcome) was highly publicized. I just thought initially that Mike was doing his thing out of principle. That's respectable. He's in it for the bling-bling and the fame, and that auction proves it. What an arse...

Chris

This is just sad. That's all I have to say, anything else would be a waste of typing time.

Originally posted by WorldBuilder
Oh, I have no doubt about that. I'm sure he can do it legally. I doubt there even was a NDA. After all, the whole debochle (as well as the outcome) was highly publicized. I just thought initially that Mike was doing his thing out of principle. That's respectable. He's in it for the bling-bling and the fame, and that auction proves it. What an arse...

Chris Well, I knew it from the start, since putting soft at the end of his domain had nothing to do with the actual services he is providing. He was providing web designing services, so "soft" really didn't fit in there. The initial intent was to attract M$ attention, he doubted it would happen so he tested it out. Probably asked his friends to email M$ and report his site.

Already 75,000 page views on his auction. Geez...

Current bid is $2,025. I wonder how many of his friends are bidding on it. :D Yhis kid will never see a dime. Who would REALLY want that?!

Chris

Hey, he was born with that name... I say let him use it to his advantage! I'm more interested in if he is legally able to sell on ebay since he isnt 18... isn't there an age limit?

Originally posted by amish_geek
Hey, he was born with that name... I say let him use it to his advantage! I'm more interested in if he is legally able to sell on ebay since he isnt 18... isn't there an age limit? I am pretty sure his parents could have created his account ;)

Originally posted by Matt
I am pretty sure his parents could have created his account ;)

Then there's a few more people we should be calling sad. :o

Originally posted by WorldBuilder
Current bid is $2,025. I wonder how many of his friends are bidding on it. :D Yhis kid will never see a dime. Who would REALLY want that?!

Chris
Hahah, would be fun to bid it up to like $12k and just get a Non-paying bidder warning.

Maybe I should create a bum eBay account just for that purpose. :D

Chris

Originally posted by Interactive
Hahah, would be fun to bid it up to like $12k and just get a Non-paying bidder warning. From what I see right now, the bids pretty valid, people are bidding with 100+ ratings. Am I missing something?

Originally posted by Matt
From what I see right now, the bids pretty valid, people are bidding with 100+ ratings. Am I missing something?

No, no. I was saying *someone* should bump the auction up to like $12k and just not pay. Course that would be cruel and two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case they do IMHO....

Originally posted by Interactive
No, no. I was saying *someone* should bump the auction up to like $12k and just not pay. Course that would be cruel and two wrongs don't make a right, but in this case they do IMHO....

I'd back you up on that one bro.

Is 30 grand high enough :rolleyes:

OMG. The thing has absolutly no value, why would someone waste the cash?

Originally posted by Interactive
...why would someone waste the cash? Because they obviously have more money than brains... Makes you wonder about the world, eh?

Chris

Update: Auction is over $100k now. Totally insane.

Oh my god. :/

I am interested in finding out how this goes :D

Originally posted by Matt
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3382073018&category=2312

Unbelievable :rolleyes: Frankly, I don't see how this is "sad".

If you had a binder of documents worth over $100,000 (current bid) that you don't necessarily need, I'm sure you'll want to make the most logical use of that too, right?

Would it be worth more to you catching dust somewhere in the attic, or paying for the house that contains the attic? :p

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Frankly, I don't see how this is "sad".

If you had a binder of documents worth over $100,000 (current bid) that you don't necessarily need, I'm sure you'll want to make the most logical use of that too, right?

Would it be worth more to you catching dust somewhere in the attic, or paying for the house that contains the attic? :p Something is telling me that the kid isn't going to get that money, could be just me :rolleyes:

Sure I agree with your point, not only does he not need them, he has another copy of it that he left for himself, and this one is an extra... (not sure why he has two)

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Frankly, I don't see how this is "sad".

If you had a binder of documents worth over $100,000 (current bid) that you don't necessarily need, I'm sure you'll want to make the most logical use of that too, right?

Would it be worth more to you catching dust somewhere in the attic, or paying for the house that contains the attic? :p
Just because the bid is at $100,000 doesn't mean the documents are worth that much. Seriously, who WOULD want them???

Originally posted by Matt
Something is telling me that the kid isn't going to get that money, could be just me :rolleyes:

Sure I agree with your point, not only does he not need them, he has another copy of it that he left for himself, and this one is an extra... (not sure why he has two)


He probably got the additional copy from his parents or something. With court related documents each party has to send a copy of any document to every other person related to the case, well atleast in my experiences.

Originally posted by DirectPixel
Frankly, I don't see how this is "sad".

If you had a binder of documents worth over $100,000 (current bid) that you don't necessarily need, I'm sure you'll want to make the most logical use of that too, right?

Would it be worth more to you catching dust somewhere in the attic, or paying for the house that contains the attic? :p

I think the point was more that the kid was in it totally for money. The document isn't worth any more than the paper it is printed on.

And what's wrong with being in it for the money? Given the opportunity like what he had, most people would've acted the same way.

But then again, most of us won't have something like that happen to us in our lifetimes. So we'll keep on going around complaining about how others are exploiting opportunities presented to them.

Originally posted by DirectPixel
And what's wrong with being in it for the money? Given the opportunity like what he had, most people would've acted the same way.

But then again, most of us won't have something like that happen to us in our lifetimes. So we'll keep on going around complaining about how others are exploiting opportunities presented to them.

Well I think people thought that it wasn't about money from the start and then he put those papers up on ebay.

Just because you get an opportunity doesn't mean that, morally speaking, you should always take it...

I completely agree with you on that, but is putting a packet of legal papers on eBay bad morality?

And how can we be sure that it was an opportunity presented to him as opposed to a decision intended to end in conflict. As someone has probably pointed out, his company didn't make software, and thus the addition of "soft" after his name seems to have no reason except the intent to create a lawsuit.

Originally posted by DirectPixel
I completely agree with you on that, but is putting a packet of legal papers on eBay bad morality?

Not exactly bad morality, more like bad judgement.

He's screwing with one of the largest and richest companies in the world, selling their legal papers on ebay probably isn't in his best interests. Not that he should be afraid of them, but there comes a point.

Either way, as the previous poster said his company/him had nothing to do with soft, software development, etc so he was to an extent trolling for trouble.

Originally posted by mttatkns
Just because the bid is at $100,000 doesn't mean the documents are worth that much. Seriously, who WOULD want them??? Actually mtt... That's pretty much the exact definition of "worth". Something is only really "worth" what someone else is willing to pay for it. For instance, if I pay $1 for a candy bar, but then realize I don't want it and try to sell it to someone else who's only willing to pay me $.50, then it only worth $.50, not $1.

If some dolt is willing to pay this kid $100,000 for this document, then that's unfortunately what is in, in fact worth. I have a funny feeling that he has friends or someone else bidding on it just for appearances sake, though. I doubt he'll ever see a dime. ;)

Chris

Originally posted by WorldBuilder
Actually mtt... That's pretty much the exact definition of "worth". Something is only really "worth" what someone else is willing to pay for it. For instance, if I pay $1 for a candy bar, but then realize I don't want it and try to sell it to someone else who's only willing to pay me $.50, then it only worth $.50, not $1.

If some dolt is willing to pay this kid $100,000 for this document, then that's unfortunately what is in, in fact worth. I have a funny feeling that he has friends or someone else bidding on it just for appearances sake, though. I doubt he'll ever see a dime. ;)

Chris Although it may be true that someone has bid extreme amounts (now $200 grand), IMO this isn't representative of what the general public would pay. In other words, if the person wants to resell it, they may have a hard time getting the price they paid for it. The economy is built upon principles of supply and demand, and I think the demand in this case is a small number of people; whatever the reasons for buying the documents will remain a mystery to the majority of us.

Economics is established on a base of SCARCITY. :)

Supply and Demand are means in which free-market economies operate so efficiently.

In this case, the said item is scarce, and because of the attention that it's been recieving, many people want the document simply for its intrinsic worth, as opposed to its utility worth.

Supply and Demand concepts work best for large quantities of goods, such as bread, cars, or other consumer/capital goods.

In this case, while you may have some success in applying demand and supply concepts, they won't be completely accurate in determining the reasoning behind somebody bidding so much.

Instead, lets just leave it and say that a small minority of us have way too much money and free time on our hands. :beer:

Just thought I would update everyone on this matter:

Most of the bids were retracted, a more detailed overview can be found on this page towards the bottom:
http://offer.ebay.com/ws3/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=3382073018

The current bid is $6,100.

Now it's down to $5100. I wouldn't be surprised if he had his friends bid on it, and now that they got other people to actually bid by making it look more wanted/valuable than it truly is, they retract their bids. Respect level for the guy is now -15%.
it looks as if the bids were NOT redrawn, but rather rejected by Mike Rowe. Interesting...

The guy is serious about selling this. He's not just putting it up to get his 15 minutes of fame.

And I highly doubt he has 50+ friends who are willing to put their feedback levels on the line just to bid on one of his auctions.

Originally posted by DirectPixel
The guy is serious about selling this. He's not just putting it up to get his 15 minutes of fame.

And I highly doubt he has 50+ friends who are willing to put their feedback levels on the line just to bid on one of his auctions. Good point Alex.
Let's wait a few days and see what really happens :)

Wow, what a moron ! LOL