Has anyone noticed that people are posting general, well cucca in the forums since the contest was announced? I'm all for contests and other things to make a site such as this more fun, but posting garbage just for the sake of a count is not cool.

I want this site to succeed as much as anyone, but having everyone just post crapola will NOT jumpstart a quality forum. What is MORE important is for everyone who joins to tell as many people as possible. If you have your own site, LINK to WML. I do!

I've been coming here from the very inception of this site, and I have to be honest here. At the current moment, the quality is having trouble. Quantity is great and all, but we will get there in time. Let's not rush it!

Anyone worth his salt knows that quality outweighs quantity any day! Anyway, I'll post answers here if I know them (and questions if I have them). Personally, I'm not interested in money from the contest. I'm interested exclusively in helping Matt build a great forum.

That's just one man's opinion!

See you all 'round the forum!

Chris

roight. so it seems to me that the intent of the contest is to get people to be on the board more and will probably do the job quite nicely. granted you are gonna get some crap, but not maybe more good posting members as well. its one of things that is quid pro quo. anywho if anyone wants to post crap, i have recently started a forum for just posting crap about crap, unfortunatly no $$$ prizes for most crap posted. heh

its at mdbriggs.com feel free to regester to post crap.

Posts are reviewed and are given a point value based on our scale system, every post has a certain amount of points that a team member valued it at and it will be taken into consideration when tallying up the contests winners ;)

Don't worry we got that covered.

Ya but after the initial rush of people and the crap topics, more people will stay and start posting in other parts of forums so you do get more people but at first it will seem like alot of crap is getting posted until the ones here just for contest and post it leave.

Originally posted by Matt
Posts are reviewed and are given a point value based on our scale system, every post has a certain amount of points that a team member valued it at and it will be taken into consideration when tallying up the contests winners ;)

Don't worry we got that covered. Ok, That works. All I want is for WML to be quality, not quantity. And the last thing any forum needs are script kiddies...

Chris

*writing spam and crap.... blah blah blah...*
LOL just joking...

But seriously what happens after the competition? Because I am sure that after the time period and the user has been announced we would suddenly see the forum having a ton of registered members but only a fraction of the active one.

Originally posted by galacnet
*writing spam and crap.... blah blah blah...*
LOL just joking...

But seriously what happens after the competition? Because I am sure that after the time period and the user has been announced we would suddenly see the forum having a ton of registered members but only a fraction of the active one. This is a monthly contest (or at least it was planned to be). If this does good for the forum, we will keep running this contest :)

Ok,

I'm back to thinking this was a bad idea. When I look around the forum now and see stupid, meaningless posts from several members ( I won't mention who because it's obvious anyway), it really makes me think that no one deserves to win anything anyway. They're all doing it for some gift, not because they care about the forum or the people. It's all about the post counts, and it's sad, I think.

My $.02,

Chris

I have been seeing this as well Chris, I will look into it.

Chris, you cannot make the assumption for everybody. I mean, who are you to say what people intend to do or how they think? I think some or most people here are willing to help the community and are just encouraged by the contest. I have to be honest, I only came here for the contest, but after being here for a while, I really do want to become an established member here, maybe even a future moderator.

My 3 cents.

I agree with Axi. Even if you have a bunch of people just coming here and posting stupid posts just to improve their chances of winning the contest, they will soon lose interest and leave. However this contest might also bring about people who will stick around and help spread the word about this forum, way after the contest is over. So, overall, I think the contest is a good idea, and will end up benefitting the forum in the long run.

I will be on the train until endgame.

Originally posted by Revenant
I will be on the train until endgame. That's great, but it's not my point. My point isn't dissatisfaction with the TIME people will spend here, it's in what's currently happening around the forum. Over and over again I am seeing new people registering, but NO ONE is creating new threads, ASKING any questions. It's all a group of people (who I'd bet know each other) rehashing the same topics over and over again! Find people who are going to create NEW discussions, ask NEW questions...

I am learning Flash this summer, and when I start asking questions (and I might), I certainly hope someone can answer.

Chris

No one is creating new threads? I have, and so have others in different areas of the forum. You can just expect people to join and have them create new topics or post all of a sudden, it will take time. Again, you are deciding this factor for us... and how can you say that we are not trying to help? I've tried to the best of my knowledge, and that is how far I can go... what if the others don't know either?

And who are you to say that we a group of people who know each other? I joined on my own not knowing ANY of you. Came here to reply to people's inquires and join the discussion, but if you see it as rehashing the same topic(s) over and over again (such as this thread), I guess you don't like a well established discussion that needs a reply.

I agree with World, look at the front page of the webmaster lounge and tell me how many posts actually have anything to do with webhosting/coding. Everyone is off topic on these boards because of the contest and not posting things that are relevant to the forums.

i've created a couple...so im not on the evil crusader's list :D.

Originally posted by Marshall
I agree with World, look at the front page of the webmaster lounge and tell me how many posts actually have anything to do with webhosting/coding. Everyone is off topic on these boards because of the contest and not posting things that are relevant to the forums. It's ok to be off-topic in the Lounge :)

That's the place where you can take a break and talk about everyday things.

The contest is here to promote these forums. I'm sure it will help bring in more members and keep the forums active.

^ dude you just did a massive spam on these forums and replied to every single post no matter what it dates back to? WTF?

I think I'll have to agree with WorldBuilder now... new members are replying in dead topics (SPAM), come's to show how desperate these people are to just get the money.

I hope hellsfear knows he isnt gonna win because Matt and the judges are basing it off content of the posts and not amount so basically the last 100 posts of his are worth maybe 1 if hes lucky lol

Originally posted by Marshall
^ dude you just did a massive spam on these forums and replied to every single post no matter what it dates back to? WTF?
:o My mistake. I didn't even check the dates on the thread. :banghead:

Originally posted by HellFear
:o My mistake. I didn't even check the dates on the thread. :banghead: ...wow.

Originally posted by Marshall
I hope hellsfear knows he isnt gonna win because Matt and the judges are basing it off content of the posts and not amount so basically the last 100 posts of his are worth maybe 1 if hes lucky lol Precisely ;)

I first heard about this site because of the contest but I don't really think I post unneccessarily.

Just like someone mentioned above, I heard of the site beacuse of the contest but after being here I like it and I hope to stay. I don't have much knowledge so I probaly wouldn't even win the contest anyways but I would enjoy it just the same.

Yeah, I heard about the site because of the contest.. came because of the contest... but now that I'm here.. I just post because I'm growing pretty fond of the place. I'm still trying to refer people to win the contest of course, but I could already have like 20 referrals of people that wouldn't post more than like 2 or 3 times, but instead I've got 2 of people that may actually post, depends on how they like the place though.

We had the same problem on the site that I moderate. . . OptiGamer. Our RPG was based on number of posts, so we had major spammers. Our new upcoming RPG that our Amin is coding is going to be completely revolutionary in web site RPG systems. We have a demo on our site in case you're interested :D

lol

Yeah, I remember all the spammers at OG, one reason I left for a while. heh

Well, anyways, contests do generally attract quite a few spammy folks, but sometimes can attract quite a few anti-spam folks that want to post good content too.

I actually joined before hearing of the contest. I like to socialize and I like to help, but I try not to post unnecessarily. It just happens that hardly any questions of my expertise have been raised, so almost all I've contributed has been conversation. Oh well. I won't win anyway. :p Knowing that, I'm still here anyway. It's all good.

In the past two days, I have gotten over 180 e-mails from here alone because people have been posting to old threads without any meaning.

You know who you are, and you are in it for the money despite what those of you would say. All I have to do is look at the profiles that say "This user has 50 posts and 50 post per day." DUH!!!

I've been her since DAY ONE. I am pretty good with XHTML and CSS. I'm a newbie in Flash. What I can't understand is that we've supposedly got all these "Flash people" (shall I name names?!), but NO ONE even so much as responded to my Flash questions so far. So far, the only person who has been cool & extremely helpful, and DESERVES to win the contest is "ZYV". Period, end of story.

Instead, people post about Lennox Lewis, or their age, or some other useless crap that no one cares about. This is ridiculous.

Chris

PS. Sorry about the rant, Matt. If you want to delete this post, go ahead, but please leave it for a day or two so that certain people (who know who they are subconsciously) can read it first.

Just so you know, that's what the general forum is generally for. ;)

Check out IMR, they've got some really retarded stuff in their general forum and they have over 4,000 members.

Also, it'd help for us to help people out if they'd post things that we knew the answers to. Nobody is posting many questions regarding HTML, XHTML, PHP, MySQL, etc., so there's not really many questions to answer is there?

Honestly I post alot. In the other Forums I'm in I'm usually the last person to post anyway and I usually have the highest post count. Also I have to disagree with you. If you're going to have a contest for money and a domain and it's based on the number of posts, of course people are goin to post aot. That is the point. Think about it. If I was having a contest of who could eat the most bananas, I would expect people to eat the bananas merely because they want to win. Should there be any other motivation? Nope. That's it. The promise of a prize is what you're using to get people to post. As long as there posting meaningfull and contributive posts, they are eligable to win. That is what the rules state, and you cannot take it away from them because they have the motivation to win. That doesn't make sence.

Exactly Optigamer. And apparently the owner of this joint doesn't mind too terribly much because he/she hasn't said anything about it, have they? Most forum owners wouldn't mind it either, gives them a higher member count and a higher post count. Causing other people to join because they're like "Oh, they've got a lot of members and posts. w007" ( ok, maybe not exact wording, but you got the jist of it, right?)

Yes, some people are posting alot. Who cares? If they're contributing to the forums by their posts then they are a good member. It doesn't matter how much they post or their motivation.

I know this is double posting, but I can't edit now :p

I'm not going to win this contest., I know that. There's no way I'm going to sit at my computer and post senceless things for hours on end. But as I said I like to post. So I'm still gonna be posting alot as usual :p. It would have been great to get my own domain. I've been workingon a site, but I don't have the money to buy a domain, so I've been stuck moderating and administering other sites. No fun.

I joined this forum mainly for the contest (I heard about it on Namepros). I never ever spam in forums I join, and I never have gotten a warning or suspension in any forums. When I heard about the contest I thought of joining this forum and posting here to get alot of posts and win the contest I really needed the $$$ :D, I knew it wouldn't work but it was worth a try. Now that I think of it, it's really hilarious how I responded to all of the threads in the WebmasterLingo Lounge place. I cracked up when I saw the "posted by HellFear" on all of those threads. I am really sorry if I annoyed anyone, and promise to not do this again. Btw, I'm still staying on these forums even when the contest is over, I'm sure it will be fun here. :)

Marshall:^ dude you just did a massive spam on these forums and replied to every single post no matter what it dates back to? WTF?
Thanks for the laugh Marshall. :D

Originally posted by HellFear
I joined this forum mainly for the contest (I heard about it on Namepros). I never ever spam in forums I join, and I never have gotten a warning or suspension in any forums. When I heard about the contest I thought of joining this forum and posting here to get alot of posts and win the contest I really needed the $$$ :D, I knew it wouldn't work but it was worth a try. Now that I think of it, it's really hilarious how I responded to all of the threads in the WebmasterLingo Lounge place. I cracked up when I saw the "posted by HellFear" on all of those threads. I am really sorry if I annoyed anyone, and promise to not do this again. Btw, I'm still staying on these forums even when the contest is over, I'm sure it will be fun here. :)


Thanks for the laugh Marshall. :D Glad you thought it was funny. It did you no good at all, wasted your time and the time of many other people, and you DID annoy pretty much everyone here. Don't do it again.

Oh, and by the way... You may have never gotten any warnings or suspensions in other forums, but consider this a warning. You've already proven to be a troll, so grow up, be good, and become a quality member. If not, don't post.

Chris

I have a large post count but I try to maintain quality posts. I've posted some tips n mini tutorials but the thing is no one really responds to them, seems like people are more concerned with going with the short answer threads and don't really want to take the time to try the tutorials because it'll take away from valuable posting time.

WorldBuilder, I hope you don't consider me to be one of those people because I am trying to give back and am posting tutorials and such in the forums. I try to post a lot but I make sure it has a purpose and make sure they are quality posts.

Originally posted by Fabolous05
WorldBuilder, I hope you don't consider me to be one of those people because I am trying to give back and am posting tutorials and such in the forums. I try to post a lot but I make sure it has a purpose and make sure they are quality posts. Well, you shouldn't really care what I think. Secondly, you HAVE posted some really good stuff (and that's great), but you have also posted a lot of crapola. No offense, man, but that's my opinion. Oh, and 135 posts in 2 days is just ridiculous.

Chris

I think at first I was more geared toward post counts and now I am focusing more on quality posts rather then quantity.

WorldBuilder, get a grip.

If I were to post at just one forum everyday, I'd average well over 100 posts a day at that forum. I mean, when I first started off going to forums I averaged about 50 a day, and they were contributing posts too.

And by the way, is this thread really contributing to the forum? No. It's just giving people a thread for you to rant in and for others to post why they came to the forum etc. So before you complain about a lot of "crapola" posts, looks at yours.

Originally posted by the illest
WorldBuilder, get a grip.

If I were to post at just one forum everyday, I'd average well over 100 posts a day at that forum. I mean, when I first started off going to forums I averaged about 50 a day, and they were contributing posts too.

And by the way, is this thread really contributing to the forum? No. It's just giving people a thread for you to rant in and for others to post why they came to the forum etc. So before you complain about a lot of "crapola" posts, looks at yours.

well first of all this is the lounge so all off-topic things are allowed so what he wants to talk about is fine. Second of all he is right, and there is a lot of "crappola" posts. However it's sort of hard to judge but a contest that sort of pushes more posts doesn't help a whole lot.

I think if there wasn't that posting leader board, there would be less unnecessary posts and not such a race to high post totals.

But the thing is, how many quality posts have we seen of his? Don't get me wrong, he could've had a ton in the past.. but I haven't seen too many from all the threads I've read.

I do agree there are a lot of stupid posts, but you find that on all forums, especially the successful ones.

Not having a leaderboard may help reduce the posts and whatnot too, but who flippin' knows.

well he has helped a lot of people including me so I'm not sure what you mean by he doesn't make quality posts. I don't see him making unesscessary posts either..

I didn't say he didn't, I just having seen very many.

"Don't get me wrong, he could've had a ton in the past.. but I haven't seen too many from all the threads I've read"

Originally posted by the illest
WorldBuilder, get a grip.

If I were to post at just one forum everyday, I'd average well over 100 posts a day at that forum. I mean, when I first started off going to forums I averaged about 50 a day, and they were contributing posts too.

And by the way, is this thread really contributing to the forum? No. It's just giving people a thread for you to rant in and for others to post why they came to the forum etc. So before you complain about a lot of "crapola" posts, looks at yours. All this coming from a guy who currently has 78PPD in THIS forum alone? Jeez, man... I don't know your age or anything about you, but if your entire life is nothing but internet forums then I say it's time for you to get a new life...

I haven't contributed to this forum? Ok, if you say so...

Chris

Again, just saying I haven't seen a ton form you. But lately I have been seeing more, just hadn't at the time of that post. heh.

Anyways, I have a life.. sorta. heh, It's just I didn't have to work the last couple days.. and didn't have any other plans, so I just sat on my butt in front of the computer most of the day. heh

well you along with I have only been here a few days you can't really say that he hasn't contributed much since he has been here for about 6 months. You know how difficult it could be to get a web forum started up and popular? Obviously at the beginning it isn't much fun talking to a very small group of people.

He as a senior member here has helped this place grow by being a base member.

Like I said, I hadn't seen many helpful posts, never said he didn't have any.

I'm sure he has, but I hadn't seen many.